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I think MUSA is 100% right by saying WWE are in safe mode. Without a viable alternative product for Wrestling fans nothing is challenging WWE to be better, so of course their current business model is to be safe, do what pleases sponsors and advertisers and keeps their PR work flourishing. Trouble is safe is horribly predictable, as someone said a episode of Raw or Smackdown has a template now, long opening promo segment, match, Women’s match, mid-card, mid-card, Cruiserweights, main-event, and they occasionally mix up who does what. Good nearly always triumphs over evil, there is nothing edgy about the product, and everything is scripted, the art of improvisation is dead in WWE.

As MUSA said WWE have also decided to oversaturate their market, this is another safe move as such. In a way it’s business logic, the casual fan will put up with the dull repetitive product so to try and keep the Hardcore fan happy we get the WWE Network where fans can relive the glory days or watch WCW and ECW or just endless collections or documentaries on former talent.

The Network was a smart move, ratings and PPV buys are down in part because of the amount of online content, people don’t need to watch Raw live when they can just catch spoilers or read a online review or catch YouTube highlights or watch the whole thing at a later date via a stream. So WWE combat this by producing a online subscription service which in fairness is a far better service than I ever thought it would be.

The only way I think WWE will ever get out of safe mode is if someone really challenges them, as MUSA also said the burden on creative must be horrendous with the amount of weekly television they have to write so they probably instinctively go with safe options because writing that much unpredictable edgy tv and meeting deadlines would be impossible.
There needs to be a new WCW or even ECW to push WWE to be better and to give the frustrated talent somewhere else to work. A lot of the roster I’m sure just stick it out and go through the motions for the money knowing that the only alternative is to grind it out on the indies. I hope ROH/NJPW can prove to be that alternative in time but right now I’m not convinced.
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Originally posted by Fletch Fletch wrote:

I think MUSA is 100% right by saying WWE are in safe mode. Without a viable alternative product for Wrestling fans nothing is challenging WWE to be better, so of course their current business model is to be safe, do what pleases sponsors and advertisers and keeps their PR work flourishing. Trouble is safe is horribly predictable, as someone said a episode of Raw or Smackdown has a template now, long opening promo segment, match, Women’s match, mid-card, mid-card, Cruiserweights, main-event, and they occasionally mix up who does what. Good nearly always triumphs over evil, there is nothing edgy about the product, and everything is scripted, the art of improvisation is dead in WWE.

As MUSA said WWE have also decided to oversaturate their market, this is another safe move as such. In a way it’s business logic, the casual fan will put up with the dull repetitive product so to try and keep the Hardcore fan happy we get the WWE Network where fans can relive the glory days or watch WCW and ECW or just endless collections or documentaries on former talent.

The Network was a smart move, ratings and PPV buys are down in part because of the amount of online content, people don’t need to watch Raw live when they can just catch spoilers or read a online review or catch YouTube highlights or watch the whole thing at a later date via a stream. So WWE combat this by producing a online subscription service which in fairness is a far better service than I ever thought it would be.

The only way I think WWE will ever get out of safe mode is if someone really challenges them, as MUSA also said the burden on creative must be horrendous with the amount of weekly television they have to write so they probably instinctively go with safe options because writing that much unpredictable edgy tv and meeting deadlines would be impossible.
There needs to be a new WCW or even ECW to push WWE to be better and to give the frustrated talent somewhere else to work. A lot of the roster I’m sure just stick it out and go through the motions for the money knowing that the only alternative is to grind it out on the indies. I hope ROH/NJPW can prove to be that alternative in time but right now I’m not convinced.



The closest thing to them right now is NJPW and even that won't last long if Triple H is able to successfully sign up the likes of Okada and Omega. 


If you want WWE to change unfortunately we will have to wait until either Vince Dies or he decides to step down and neither are going to happen anytime soon.

Personally I'm a fan of less talking and more wrestling during the shows and if you want to save your top stars then this is the time when you have the likes of Crews and Axel wrestle so you rest your bigger names for the PPV's.  
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When Triple H, Stephanie and Shane take the reigns I expect to see a product a bit more like NXT but with obviously a lot more gloss and mainstream appeal, and to be honest that would be absolutely fine with me.

NXT in its glory days was a fine piece of work, gritty, more realistic and solid wrestling action from top to bottom. Mix that up with the glitz and glamour of the main roster and I think you have a winner.

On another note WWE should bring back In Your House, these shows could be used as the brand stand alone events meaning they could be shorter(2-2.5 hours). Then the dual branded major shows of which there are now five would feel more important.

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Originally posted by L-shizzel L-shizzel wrote:

The closest thing to them right now is NJPW and even that won't last long if Triple H is able to successfully sign up the likes of Okada and Omega. 

Oh, I don't see Okada going anywhere.  This is what I absolutely love about Japan - loyalty.  New Japan, All Japan, NOAH - ANY of the promotions, it is VERY rare and VERY hard to see a wrestler jump ship to another promotion.  When it happens, it's major news.  The only time I can recall NJPW losing their homegrown talents would be Keiji Mutoh (Great Muta) and Satoshi Kojima, who jumped to AJPW in their later years of their career (which was shocking).  However, NJPW seems to be a place that built an environment that rosters want to keep being apart of.  Okada has a very strict loyalty to NJPW for giving him the training he wanted, the opportunities he's asked (traveling to America/Mexico), and giving him a shot to be the star.  For evidence, look at Tanahashi.  WWE tried to grab him for a years, but he consistently said no and stated on news outlets that he's loyal to NJPW and will end his career there.  Okada is basically Tanahashi version 2.0.

Let's be honest, WWE money is likely WAY more than NJPW money, yet Omega keeps signing with NJPW.  He was quoted as saying he's just very happy with NJPW.  He likes the creative freedom he gets, he likes working with his friends everyday, he likes that he can talk openly with management, he likes the schedule that NJPW gives him.   They treat him like a human being, and he's grown accustomed to their way. 

WWE is a creatively murdering environment where you're dictated what to do and lose all of your inputs to an arrogant family of rich WASPS.  Omega knows that and is hesitant to sign unless he wants to work a "lighter style" in-ring.  Omega doesn't have a wife or kids, so he really only needs to focus on himself right now.  Omega also has a life out in Japan - so it's not like moving back to the states is very inviting to him.

Don't get me wrong, I think Kenny will sell out sometime - and that sucks.  If I were in Kenny's shoes, I would never want to go to WWE - given his personality, it seems like a bad fit.  But, Okada?  Hell no.  If that happened, I'd be really shocked.  Nakamura was shocking, don't get me wrong, but he was not the NJPW ace like Tanahashi.  Okada is.  I'd more believe someone like SANADA would go to WWE before Okada.
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