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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rico Len Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09/October/2017 at 17:33
There's not much to devalue. They HAVEN'T been as successful on their own as expected. It's been pretty lackluster really. Together they were awesome, apart... meh.
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I think Rollins has been awesome on his own - his title reign was quaity

I've never been a fan of ambrose - he just doesnt really have any standout qualitys 

The whole lunatic thing isnt really working - he looks more like a guy coming off Diazepam than a lunatic
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See? That's just it though. Of the three Ambrose is to me the best. He has yet to hit his stride. He has a Jake/Foley kind of personality to him where once he turns heel, he is going to skyrocket. The fact that he was fairly good as a babyface means a lot, because he is a natural heel and it'll be 10 times better than his babyface run.

Rollins on the other hand is a better babyface, and his heel run was boring as fuck IMO, and his face run hasn't been all that hot either.

Reigns is still the guy with all the star power. People can hate him all they want, but at this point in his career he is pretty damned good now. He was too green to be own his own when they first split, but he eventually grew, but it cost him his fanbase. However the fact is Reigns is one heel turn from being the most over guy in the WWE.

That said, that is just my opinion. My point here is that everyone has their favorites but they all have a damned good shot of building a fanbase like never before now that they're all former WWE champions. Each has had a bumpy road, but with them all together again, their fanbase ought to grow immensely, and there is a very real chance that they take it with them in singles competition this time around.

Oh and BTW, their reunion is now official. Putting Strowman down was a good show for them.
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Originally posted by Rico Len Rico Len wrote:

See? That's just it though. Of the three Ambrose is to me the best. He has yet to hit his stride. He has a Jake/Foley kind of personality to him where once he turns heel, he is going to skyrocket. The fact that he was fairly good as a babyface means a lot, because he is a natural heel and it'll be 10 times better than his babyface run.

Rollins on the other hand is a better babyface, and his heel run was boring as fuck IMO, and his face run hasn't been all that hot either.

Reigns is still the guy with all the star power. People can hate him all they want, but at this point in his career he is pretty damned good now. He was too green to be own his own when they first split, but he eventually grew, but it cost him his fanbase. However the fact is Reigns is one heel turn from being the most over guy in the WWE.

That said, that is just my opinion. My point here is that everyone has their favorites but they all have a damned good shot of building a fanbase like never before now that they're all former WWE champions. Each has had a bumpy road, but with them all together again, their fanbase ought to grow immensely, and there is a very real chance that they take it with them in singles competition this time around.

Oh and BTW, their reunion is now official. Putting Strowman down was a good show for them.

I suppose everyone is entitled to their opinion - i just dont get how ambrose has been the best ... he's the least interesting, hasnt really had the best storylines, had the worst title run - he's known as the lunatic fringe but literally does nothing to live up to that gimmick with exception of walking really fast with a weird look on his face

Rollins for me is the better all round member of the shield in every aspect

I do agree with you on Reigns having an element of star power - he seemed to become the most popular of the 3 the first time around but i think part of that was down to him getting the least mic time and was basically the muscle of the group - i see him getting the most air time this time around as they look for a way for him to somehow become the top face in the company
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Yeah, I get it. I mean, I'm pretty sure that Rollins is the more popular star between the two (he and Ambrose), but there's a not small group of people that like Ambrose better. To me Rollins is boring and cookie cutter, Ambrose as the Lunatic Fringe is still waiting to happen. Right now it's a name he calls himself, when he turns heel that's when we'll actually see it. Maybe it'd help to see some of Jon Moxley in the Combat Zone. I never really saw much of Tyler Black in RoH.

Either way you look at it, the two make a great team when they're with Reigns.
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Originally posted by #Heel #Heel wrote:

I've never been a fan of ambrose - he just doesnt really have any standout qualitys 

The whole lunatic thing isnt really working - he looks more like a guy coming off Diazepam than a lunatic

I like him despite his stupid nickname related to his haircut. If they went back to Rated R so his gimmick could be full blown Brian Pilman he would be the most over guy on the whole roster.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8M-A_KY60M

How amusing that the only way for Reigns to be cheered is by association with more popular guys and playing off the old nostalgia card.

Not a fan of their new t shirt or that the rebirth of the group wasn't a shock because we saw it coming for weeks.
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Yah I hope to see them do their old entrance out of the stands through the crowd, wearing those shock trooper vests at the PPV. The shirts are lame. I mean, maybe not so much for a fan, but seeing them wear those shirts just seems dumb.

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Originally posted by Rico Len Rico Len wrote:

Yah I hope to see them do their old entrance out of the stands through the crowd, wearing those shock trooper vests at the PPV. The shirts are lame. I mean, maybe not so much for a fan, but seeing them wear those shirts just seems dumb.

The shirts would have worked better being in their trademark black instead of making them more colourful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TP1zVBdosw

When they saved Matt Hardy that was cool. They are the hounds of justice afterall.

I'm happy that even though it was three babyfaces triple teaming a heel, the heel put up a good fight with Braun.
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I think, actually, i hope the shirts were only for the first night or two - in order to get people to buy them and that they go back to the traditional bad ass shield attire

The Shield in the first run were amazing and to get near that level again they need to pick up on all the things they used to do to make them stand out - as per Ricos post above about the entrance through the crowd etc
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