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I hate it when a wrestler gets moved to midcard jobbing status and get squashed by a top name despite a few months previously being able to last 20 mins against said top name.
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Originally posted by Pac-Man Pac-Man wrote:

I hate how almost all the announcers in WWE will condemn and shame a heel for the littlest things when it comes to cheap shots, cheating to win, superdickery, or going back on one's word to get ahead on rivals or people one doesn't like, but then when a "squeaky clean kids' hero" top face like Sheamus or John Cena does the exact same shit just as frequently or dangerously as a typical heel, is less entertaining about it, and generally always gets away with it, they try to handwave it out of existence and extol the super!face's so-called "virtues" some more. It also gets even more under my skin because 90% of the time, literally the only exception that doesn't fall into this is Michael freaking Cole.
 
Yes Yes Yes, that has bugged me too for decades.
 
A heel attacks and then runs at the first sign of trouble i.e. another babyface making a save. The heel is labeled as running like a scolded dog. When a face does it, its smart of the babyface to pick his spot and attack at the opportune moment. And then escape before any damage can be done to the babyface.
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A face announcer's job is to smooth over everything the babyface does, and condemn the heel for whatever they do. It might not be consistent, but it's all part of the character development. The announcers are there to emphasize everything the wrestlers do, so they'll make the face look like as good of a guy as possible, and the heel as bad of a guy as possible. It's Pro Wrestling Commentary 101.
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A couple came to mind just now.

1) Wrestler A struggles in matches against Wrestlers B,C and D,but once Wrestler A becomes World Champion Wrestler A suddenly becomes virtually unstoppable.Once Wrestler A loses the World Title they go back to being easily defeated.

2) This one applies mostly to TNA but I hate when Heels talk about how much they respect their Face/Heel opponent and how incredible he is.For example Roode,that selfish,self-centered guy should not think highly of Kurt Angle,and even if he did,he sure as hell shouldn't be admitting it to anyone.

3) This one doesn't really happen much anymore but it bugged a lot back then.In a tag Team match when things get chaotic and one guy pins the other guy despite one or neither guy being the legal man.

4) Okay,this is the one that bothers me the most.The speed of a three second pin count changing based on the situation.Wrestler A hits his finisher on Wrestler B and the Ref counts the pin at the normal speed.But when Wrestler A catches Wrestler B in a roll-up the Ref counts the pin noticeably faster than three seconds.This is something that bugged the hell out of me even as a child.
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I hate how a finsher will practically ko an opponent at a house show, but at PPV they can kick out of it several times. I know why but it pisses me off.
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Originally posted by Kaos Punk Kaos Punk wrote:


1) Wrestler A struggles in matches against Wrestlers B,C and D,but once Wrestler A becomes World Champion Wrestler A suddenly becomes virtually unstoppable.Once Wrestler A loses the World Title they go back to being easily defeated.


This is usually due to the fact that most promotions (rightfully so) booked and treated their champions like they were the best the promotion had to offer. Consistency isn't always there, but the fact that the champion is treated that way is respectable.

Originally posted by Kaos Punk Kaos Punk wrote:

2) This one applies mostly to TNA but I hate when Heels talk about how much they respect their Face/Heel opponent and how incredible he is.For example Roode,that selfish,self-centered guy should not think highly of Kurt Angle,and even if he did,he sure as hell shouldn't be admitting it to anyone.



Originally posted by Kaos Punk Kaos Punk wrote:

2) This one applies mostly to TNA but I hate when Heels talk about how much they respect their Face/Heel opponent and how incredible he is.For example Roode,that selfish,self-centered guy should not think highly of Kurt Angle,and even if he did,he sure as hell shouldn't be admitting it to anyone.

Maybe this isn't the best thing for his character, but a professional worker will ALWAYS put the other guy over in interviews, and THEN get your heel heat on him. And in the end, it works out better for him, because when he does overcome his opponent, he'll get much more out of it then just trashing him. Plus, it's more courteous. You'd get heat easily by trashing your fellow wrestler. Unless you are funny (like The Rock or Stone Cold), then you always put over your opponent. (that's coming straight from Dory Funk Jr)

Originally posted by Kaos Punk Kaos Punk wrote:

3) This one doesn't really happen much anymore but it bugged a lot back then.In a tag Team match when things get chaotic and one guy pins the other guy despite one or neither guy being the legal man.


I agree with this. Inconsistency with the rules is just bad booking.

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4) Okay,this is the one that bothers me the most.The speed of a three second pin count changing based on the situation.Wrestler A hits his finisher on Wrestler B and the Ref counts the pin at the normal speed.But when Wrestler A catches Wrestler B in a roll-up the Ref counts the pin noticeably faster than three seconds.This is something that bugged the hell out of me even as a child.


I think the main reason for this is because roll-ups and certain spots like them are there to get the quick pop QUICKLY. It's a part of the storybuilding aspect of it, and knowing the way to work the crowd goes into it for a ref. A surprise roll-up doesn't need to be slowed down, because it would lose that element of surprise.


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Originally posted by HBKDX97 HBKDX97 wrote:

Originally posted by Kaos Punk Kaos Punk wrote:

1) Wrestler A struggles in matches against Wrestlers B,C and D,but once Wrestler A becomes World Champion Wrestler A suddenly becomes virtually unstoppable.Once Wrestler A loses the World Title they go back to being easily defeated.

This is usually due to the fact that most promotions (rightfully so) booked and treated their champions like they were the best the promotion had to offer. Consistency isn't always there, but the fact that the champion is treated that way is respectable.

Yeah, but logically Wrestler A should get on an unstoppable roll before becoming champion. The world title isn't the Green Lantern power ring.
 
 
Originally posted by HBKDX97 HBKDX97 wrote:

Originally posted by Kaos Punk Kaos Punk wrote:

2) This one applies mostly to TNA but I hate when Heels talk about how much they respect their Face/Heel opponent and how incredible he is.For example Roode,that selfish,self-centered guy should not think highly of Kurt Angle,and even if he did,he sure as hell shouldn't be admitting it to anyone.

Maybe this isn't the best thing for his character, but a professional worker will ALWAYS put the other guy over in interviews, and THEN get your heel heat on him. And in the end, it works out better for him, because when he does overcome his opponent, he'll get much more out of it then just trashing him. Plus, it's more courteous. You'd get heat easily by trashing your fellow wrestler. Unless you are funny (like The Rock or Stone Cold), then you always put over your opponent. (that's coming straight  from Dory Funk Jr)

There's other ways to put over your opponent (which I completely agree is an important thing to do.) But I associated that whole 'I respect you so much' bit with a babyface character.


Originally posted by HBKDX97 HBKDX97 wrote:

Originally posted by Kaos Punk Kaos Punk wrote:

3) This one doesn't really happen much anymore but it bugged a lot back then.In a tag Team match when things get chaotic and one guy pins the other guy despite one or neither guy being the legal man.

I agree with this. Inconsistency with the rules is just bad booking.
 
It was a great spot when it meant something. Namely setting up the big rematch. I've seen that a few times recently and it just looks like they ran out of time or something.

Originally posted by HBKDX97 HBKDX97 wrote:

 
Originally posted by Kaos Punk Kaos Punk wrote:

4) Okay,this is the one that bothers me the most.The speed of a three second pin count changing based on the situation.Wrestler A hits his finisher on Wrestler B and the Ref counts the pin at the normal speed.But when Wrestler A catches Wrestler B in a roll-up the Ref counts the pin noticeably faster than three seconds.This is something that bugged the hell out of me even as a child.

I think the main reason for this is because roll-ups and certain spots like them are there to get the quick pop QUICKLY. It's a part of the storybuilding aspect of it, and knowing the way to work the crowd goes into it for a ref. A surprise roll-up doesn't need to be slowed down, because it would lose that element of surprise.
 
In generally I think the refs (especially in WWE) count idiotically slow. I hate how slow a count-out occurs. Watch some older matches on YouTube. There were NWA refs that could count to 20 before a WWE ref can get to 5.
 
But even the refs counted a little bit faster for the finish. It wasn't as obvious as today, but it happened. Now when a ref slow counts the pin it's telegraphs the kick-out.
 
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Guy punches other guy repeatedly in corner to no effect.

Guy uses punch as finisher and is instant knockout artist.
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Originally posted by John The Baptist John The Baptist wrote:

Guy punches other guy repeatedly in corner to no effect.

Guy uses punch as finisher and is instant knockout artist.

...... Its more powerful because he screams/ shakes fist repeatedly when he does it. 
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Faces and heels always get along. I hate it and it makes me want to stab people. It's especially prevalent in WWE. Orton turns face, gets on with Cena just fine. Sheamus turns face, gets on with everybody. Christian turns face, has no problem with Sheamus or Orton. The only person they've booked with any consistency like this is CM Punk, who will hate guys like Del Rio and Cena regardless of his disposition. It just infuriates me seeing guys tag together when they were in a blood feud six months ago or whatever.
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