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Originally posted by Rico Len Rico Len wrote:

lol I hadn't heard that one... That totally sounds like a WCW storyline.
The Kevin Sullivan theory is based upon the assumption that Sullivan was a legit Satanist and involved in some sort of cult or Satantic church. The theorists also claim that Nancy was killed 10 years to the date her divorce from Sullivan was finalized.

Among the many things that counter the Sullivan-Satanic cult theory is that by the time of the tragic, Sullivan was widely reported to be a highly depressed alcoholic. Not exactly in any condition to be the mastermind behind a successful murder conspiracy. 

But even that has been incorporated into the theory. Police reported they found numerous empty beer cans in the house. Theorists claim that the beer was consumed by the alchoholic Sullivan and his accomplices.

According to the late Mike Graham, Chris Benoit did kill his family and that Sullivan was not involved. Graham decribed Nancy as mean and manipulative. Even after everything that had happenedSullivan was Benoit's biggest pusher on the creative team. Kevin Sullivan was the guy that put the Wcw title on Benoit.

But Nancy wasn't happy with any of that and wanted Sullivan fired. Nancy was the one that was holding a grudge and not Sullivan. And it was Nancy that pressured Benoit to complain to management to get Sullivan fired. Sullivan was left emotionally broken after being fired by WCW.

Mike Graham believed that what pushed Benoit over the edge was that Nancy finally admitted that Daniel wasn't Chris' son and that the father was really Vince McMahon. This ties back to rumors that Nancy performed sexual favors to advance Benoit's career.

It's worth pointing out that Graham had his own history with Chris Benoit. Graham was a long-time friend of Kevin Sullivan's and Graham worked backstage as part of the WCW booking team. Graham even threaten Benoit's life and was fired for it.

Former wrestler Johnny Lee Clary (AKA Johnny Angel) has been a big supporter of the "Sullivan-Did-It" theory. Clary was a former Grand Dragon in the KKK even while an active NWA/NWF wrestler. He later had a religious awakening. He left the KKK and became an evangelical minister. As a preacher Clary has become a vocal critic of professional wrestling, especially of the WWE & Vince McMahon during the Attitude Era.

Clary adds the death of Sherri Martel 9 days before as being linked to the Benoit tragic. The linking of Sherri Martel is really vague. Something to do with her not cooperating with Nancy during the kayfabe part of the Kevin Sullivan & Woman split. Backstage Sherri had heat with Nancy and Nancy had a lot to do with Sherri getting fired by WCW. Sherri remained friends with Kevin Sullivan after WCW. Sherri might have been killed to kept her from going to the police as Kevin Sullivan was preparing to exact his revenge.

What feds the theorists is that the police did screw up during the investigation. Evidence was mishandled or collected but never analyzed. And the police were quick to wrap up their investigation. Of course the police also never came across anything that might have suggested it was anything other than a murder-suicide.



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I'm going back and trying to post some new stuff to threads I started a while back and let slide.

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I love unnecessary censorship.
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Edited by Rico Len - 07/December/2015 at 17:56
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Originally posted by Raven Raven wrote:

Anybody who goes and does something like he did is obvs fucked in the brain, just because they proved it with him doesn't make him better. Psychopathic/Sociopathic serial killers are viewed as shitstains on the underwear of life, why should Benoit be any different because he was wrong in the head too? And he can't have been that fucked, none of his co-workers noticed anything off about him before he decided to kill a woman and a child.

I don't care how talented he was, he doesn't deserve to be mentioned on WWE tv again, he's lucky he still gets mentioned in title lineages and things for the sake of record-keeping.

Originally posted by HBKDX97 HBKDX97 wrote:

Say a waiter goes crazy and kills his wife and son methodically over the course of a weekend, then kills himself.

Would you expect anyone in that restaurant to put a plaque of him on their wall for how good at his job he was? No! Fuck him. And would anyone complain about that? Nope.

But because it was a famous wrestler it makes a difference to some people? I'll call bullshit all day.

By the way, more food for thought. This was methodical. He killed his wife, then killed his son, hung them up by their neck with gym equipment, and placed Bibles underneath their bodies. He didn't just tear into them like a rabid wolverine, he choked the shit out of them until they were dead and displayed for anyone to find. Poor old Chris, right?


Just had a read through this thread (I love it how Beniot's name has to come up in the 2nd post of this thread about censorship), but I definitely side with Raven and Russ on this issue. I get that Benoit had brain damage; but I believe he knew what he was doing. Plus as Russ said his actions were methodical and involved planned drawn out actions. We all know that WWE is covering their ass (and as Colly said protecting their dollar) in erasing him. But Benoit is a sick killer and should not be honored. And I do not watch his matches the same. 

The Verne Gagne situation that thundarr brought up is tricky. When someone would argue "well, Benoit had the brain of an 80 year old" and I would think, "Okay, how many 80 year olds kill their family." Then Gagne goes and strangles someone to death in a nursing home while suffering from dementia (which was the reason why he was not charged.) Still that being said, there are two main differences between that situation and Benoit's. 1. Gagne's actions were instinctual while as Russ Bus said Benoit's actions were drawn out, and 2. I don't believe Gagne planned to kill his nursing home housemate. He has applied wrestling moves a billion times and had done what he had always done when the incident happened. So at worst I would say Gagne is guilty of involuntary manslaughter; and I don't see him in the same light (or darkness) as Benoit.     

But yes, the WWE can definitely erase someone and pretend that somebody never existed and in fact since the Benoit incident they've become good at it. In 2015 when a tape surfaced of Hogan making racist remarks they immediately took him off all TV (he was a current judge on Tough Enough and was replaced by Miz and they never mentioned him after), cut archive footage of him, and removed his page from their Hall Of Fame site. It remained that way for 4 years. 

Same exact thing happened with Jimmy Snuka when his murder case was reopened in 2015 (even though Vince knew about the murder since 1983.) He stopped being mentioned on TV. There were even internet memes going around about The Undertaker Tombstoning the air to begin his streak at WrestleMania VII. Then once the charges were dropped and Snuka passed away like two weeks later, the WWE honored him as if he was an all time hero. And for the record my take on that incident is that Snuka is guilty. There were multiple previous instances of Snuka beating her. 

The WWE even showed Fabulous Moolah less once the allegations of forcefully pimping out Sweet Georgia Brown came out in 2018 amidst backlash from WWE naming the WrestleMania women's battle royal after her. 

As said, it's all about WWE covering their ass.     

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