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    Posted: 03/June/2015 at 20:26
I have been watching Monday Nitro on the wwe network a lot lately, and I have just gotten to the nWo invasion and the Hogan heel turn fallout.

There are a number of things I hear the IWC say about wcw at large that bug me to no end, but there are also a few things wcw commentators themselves have done to annoy me and I want to set the record straight.

A huge amount of what people say about wcw's shortcomings is true, but there is a lot of bs floating around that is generally accepted as true too, and I want to dispell some of those myths.

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People go on nonstop about how Kevin Nash never drew a dime as world champ, but the fact is those mechanics for gaging drawing power are flawed.

In watching nitro I noticed slowly week by week that nitro did the same thing wwe commentators of today do, misname the chants by the fans to suit their needs. The fans rarely (but would on occasion) chant weasel when Bobby Heenan was around, but once Nash showed up those chants seemed to increase exponentially. That is until I realized they were chanting Diesel, not weasel.

In fact, Diesel chants were the biggest and most frequent chants wcw fans used in June and July of 96, with Razor as a distant second. What brought my attention to this was when I finally became aware that I was hearing a Razor chant, and then a minute later it changed when Nash came out and the commentators mentioned the weasel chants. Imight never have noticed it otherwise because wcw didn't wire the mics specifically to pick up crowd noise so that they could then amplify in real time through their speakers. Instead they did the older, less sophisticated method of piping in pre-recorded crowd noise.

Diesel was over and over bigger than Sting, Flair, Savage, or Hogan. Let me rephrase that. WCW Monday Nitro, the biggest most successful wrestling show in history to that point, had 4 of the very biggest names in history active on its roster, and the fans preferred to chant for Diesel, the man whose legacy according to the wwe is that of the worst draw of the 90's. SSomething is wrong with that statement.

Now, does that mean Diesel did in fact draw money for the WWF? Obviously not, but maybe blaming him for the business in the wwf slumping is just making a scapegoat of him more than anything else, afterall it's not like it got a whole lot better under Shawn Micheals.
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I would also like to address one other oft repeated mis-conception that Chris Jericho likes to perpetrate.

Where you were on the card is where you stayed.

Diamond Dallas Page is a very easy example to use. He was a manager, then he was enhancement talent, then he was a midcard champion, then he was a wcw stalwart hero against nWo, and finally a 3 time wcw world heavyweight champion. Now, maybe he wasn't the norm, but Billy Kidman was wcw champion too, who had worked his way up from the cruiserweight division.

Here is a double whammy for wcw haters. Kevin Nash repeatedly lost to Rey Mysterio. Mr. I booked myself as champion and never put anyone over, took a guy from the opening bout of the average ppv, and put him over big.

Scott Steiner, midcard tag champion and occasional main event filler became a sizable draw as world champion.

Same holds true for Booker T as Scott Steiner.

WCW built a number of champions more or less from the ground up. Some good some average and a couple of the very worst ever in any company. But someone that is rarely ever mentioned is Jeff Jarrett. Personally I would put him in the average category, but there is no denying that for as middling as his run was in wcw, he rose to success every bit as much in wcw as he did in tna, and wwf was just the stepping stone to bigger and better things.



There is another facet I would like to point out too, which Jericho himself has pointed out but never fully realized. He says that where you started at in wcw is where you stayed, but then he also said that people came to see the cruiserweight division. Now, there is no contradiction in what he has said, but, Rey Mysterio, Eddie Guerrero, Chris Benoit especially as a part of the 4 Horsemen, Dean Malenko, and even Disco Inferno (wcw's homebrewed Honkey Tonk Man) were draws within that division.

It would be the equivalent of Monday Night Raw being three hours as it is now, but having the NXT crew put on an nxt style show in the first hour of raw before moving to a 2 hour raw, complete with a new set of commentators.

That first hour of Nitro was like a whole different subshow within the greater show that was Nitro.

And Mysterio, Malenko, Jericho, Eddie and Benoit were the main eventers of that show.

Now sure they'd cross over and be jobbers on the main roster, just like Sami Zayn, et all aside from Owens current push have had to deal with, but within their division they were the main event.

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I am sure there will be more, I am only just over halfway through 96, and the show is just hitting its stride, but I wanted to get a few of these things off my chest, while I am watching again.
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I guess you raised some valid points, mostly about the Cruiserweight division part. As for Nash, I think it's kinda unfair to blame him for not drawing in 1995. The business was in a horrible state in 1995. Hell, WWF could've gone belly up under other circumstances. It was just a very very crappy time in the business and no matter who you would've put there as champion, the result would've probably been the same. Although he was in charge of booking at that time, Kevin Nash still did pretty good as WCW World Heavyweight Champion, at the exception of the infamous Finger of Doom incident.
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I Did like Kidmans rise in WCW to become a top Cruiserweight Draw and Tag Team Champion. 

I never Marked for JJ in WCW but I did enjoy DDP at the top of the Card against anyone as I di enjoy Stings run. Looking bvack though the thing that I hated most about WCW was not the finger poke but the way they ended the Streak.
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I'm gonna start watching a few more episodes again. My problem though is that WWE Network only has 1995 and 1996 uploaded atm, so once I get to the end of the year, I'm not sure how I'll go about watching again.
 
Hmmm Edgehead, I was going to link you to a thread a created a number of months (years?) back about how the Fingerpoke of Doom was a well executed angle (but an ill-advised booking), but apparently that thread has been deleted...
 
Unless Adders can find it for me. I can't find it anymore. :/
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As Bobby the brain Heenan said: Hog Wild? I though that was a Milwaukee female bowling league!

I am currently watching the post Hog Wild Nitro. Hogan took the world title from Big Show. Outsiders beat Luger and Sting with an interesting dusty finish of Nick Patrick getting hit in the head by Kevin Nash's boot while being held in Luger's torture rack. Patrick then fell on the back of Luger's knee and essentially clipped him, Nash fell on Luger, then Patrick made a fast count. Now there is a controversy about what happened, and Sting and Luger came out and demanded a rematch that night.

They went to commercial and came back with them gone, and DDP and the Renegade were starting a match. DDP is still in loud clothes and is obviously still midcard and is apparently the lord of the ring. 

Hall, Nash and Hogan are backstage talking trash and teasing a 4th and 5th member, but no one knows who they are, or if they're even real yet. As far as promos are concerned these are very casual and minimalist to emphasize the reality over cartoonish characters of the wwf.

Konan is in the ring with Jim Powers. Larry Zybisko and Tony Schivoni have a hybrid commentary style of the old school calling the match and the Vince McMahon style of today's commentaty of jusf telling stories. It actually would be a pretty good compromise for todays commentary team to employ. Konan cuts a heel promo. Not bad, but meh.

off to commercial and when they come back "Ron Studd" is on his way to the ring. He looks like a taller A-Train billed as 7 ft tall . He is paired with Benoit. Benoit takes him off his feet, and then takes him apart. Benoit wins with a superplex. Quick match but fun too. Afterwards, "Mean" Gene interviews Benoit with Woman and Liz. Woman for weeks has besn physically flirting with Gene, it has been funny to watch her throw him off his game. Benoit cuts a cookie cutter promo on Big Show.

As they review Stieners vs Harlem Heat at hog wild a weasel chant breaks out for Brain and Bischoff taking over commentary. A rematch of Stieners vs Harlem Heat begins . sensational Sherri cost Stieners the match at hog wild, so the Bischoff is playing up her presence in this match too. Hard to argue anyone as a better tag team than the Stieners. Harlem Heat is a close. Sherri hooks Scotts leg, Stevie Ray falls on top, Rick chases the colonel who accidently kicks Scotty while he is down and Patrick DQs Harlem Heat.

Mysterio vs Ultimo Dragon. WCW Fuck yeah! I gotta say, as good as it was, and it was, this match was almost a perfect blueprint for every match in the wwe today. In fact Mysterio and Kalisto seem so identical it is insane. Great match, but these days I am quite burned out on them.

Main Event time, Macho Man Randy Savage vs Ric Flair with Ms. Elizabeth and Woman for the US title. Just... damn I love Nitro! Savage comes out and kicksass in a flurry, until Flair takes off out of the ring, baits him, then delivers a low blow and slows the match down. I gotta say as much as I dislike punches, kicks, and clotheslines in a match, when they get used too much, but I fuckin loved watching Savage deliver his style of a boxing punch.Those were so cool. Flair puts Savage in the figure four, Savage reverses, Flair slams savage then goes to the top and Savage hops up and tosses him. Ref gets hit and Savage delivers a double axehandle off the top rope. Savage pulls up the outside mat, and Hogan saunters down with a chair and levels him and rolls him into the ring and leaves. Woman rouses Flair and coaxes him into the ring. Flair pins Savage, feet on the ropes for leverage, Woman hangs on his feet for more leverage, and Flair gets the win, and now everyone thinks Flair is the 4th member of the nWo.

Hogan cuts a rah rah nwo promo.

nwo vs wcw with Sting and Luger vs the outsiders. Outsiders start cheating to win, and the 4 horsemen come to help Sting and Luger, and outsiders take off. Nick Patrick, during replays is shown to pull Scott Hall out of the way of the Stinger splash. Patrick also took off during the scuffle and now it appears that the nwo bought off Nick Patrick at hog wild.

Flair cuts a pro wcw promo, saying he doesn't like Luger and Sting, but at least they're wcw, and Flair is in no way with the nwo. 

End of show.

I gotta say,  this show has been brilliantly controlled chaos.  You could tell the show was completely under control, but it definitely came off as chaotic by design due to the nwo creating so many problems for wcw. Very, very good episode.


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August 19 1996 WCW Monday Nitro

Show opens with Hacksaw Jim Duggan vs IRS.

Hacksaw gets the win in a fun, but simple opener. Mean gene interviews Hacksaw about Hollywood Hogan. Hacksaw calls Hulk Terry and says he's a coward. Macho Man comes out to agree with Hacksaw and tells Hogan they will meet in a match again. They replay the chair shot from last week and Savage is pissed, but he's also got a match against Big Show and tonight he's gonna tcb, take care of business.

Bobby Eaton comes out as Earl Robert Eaton, tag team partner of Lord Steven Regal, in singles competition against Benoit who got squashed by big show ina replay from clash of the champions the previous thursday. Benoit wins with a flying headbutt.

Disco Inferno vs Scott Flash Norton. 
Disc Inferno gets basically squashed. 

Once that is over they go to a backstage to mean gene interviewing Teddy Long and Nortons x tag partner ice train. Guess they're trying to build that match still. Not really interested, but whatever.

Lord Steven Regal comes out looking like he's 65 years old even then. He will be facing off against Dean Malenko. Finally, a good match! Nice long clinic they put on. Strong showing by both. Malenko gets the win.

Mean Gene interview Arn and Flair. Apparently after last week, Flair and Arn are facing off against Luger and Sting now. Flair talks smack about Hogan.

Bischoff and Heenan take over commentary as the Nasty Boys head to the ring to fight public enemy.

Moment of irony: Bischoff tells Hogan no matter what he, Nash and Hall do that wcw will not be going out of business.

Public Enemy go through a table and Nasty Boys get the win.

DDP vs Chavo Guerrero
Dallas' look is getting better, still in spandex, but at least it is black and not neon green and pink. DDP at his greenest was too far over the top, but his character was always on the right track. His evolution was a fun one to watch imo. Tonight DDP looked pretty much on the mark. Probably the best I have seen him to this point. DDP in true heel fashion had the match won dominantly, the gets up to brag like a jerk and chavito catches him with a rollup. Ddp strips patrick's belt and then whips chavo. 

Mean gene comes out asking Patrick about his poor officiating, and Patrick is still denying everything.

Sting and Luger are petitioning Arn and Flair to be partners as a four man group at wargames against the nwo. Making deals with the devil. This marks the first time both wcw faces and heels agree to work together to take out the nwo.

The following announcement is paid for by the new world order. Looking back on it the promos aren't holding up to time so well. I remember marking big for them back in the day though.

Main event is MachoMan  vs Big Show. Savage sneak attacks before the bell with a chair. The match never really gets started. Dungeon of Doom comes out to attack Savage, and Savage fends them off with the chair, then takes off as they all swarm him in the ring. Big show pops up and does something I don't remember ever seeing before or since from him, he leaps over the top rope straight to the floor and takes off running after savage.

Well... shit. I have seen better Nitros, but there was some good stuff still. Popped for big show's leaping over the top rope to the floor to chase after savage. That was pretty cool, but shit that there was no match. Ok episode overall. Still better than most every raw I have seen lately though.


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I am in to February of 97 now with Nitro, and IMO the show is more or less on autopilot at this point. The show is running at a very high level, but at the same time it seems a bit like they're just going through the motions. One episode in January featured Dean Malenko vs Eddie Guerrero, and then Chris Benoit vs Jeff Jarrett in back to back matches. Both were fantastic.

Looking at it now, I notice Scott Hall's absences, rare though they are at this point, though getting more frequent are likely due to his sliding down into alcoholism. I even noticed he looked a bit (just a bit) out of it in his latest squash with Kevin vs some jobber tag team that was had as a main event troll on the audience to get heat on the nWo.

Savage just returned, and TBH I had forgotten that he joined Sting up in the rafters there for a while.

Does anyone know when the first time was that someone came to the ring with a mic (and maybe a chair) saying they're not leaving until they get what they want?

Randy Savage did that on his first night back after being out for while, and it was interesting how they played it out. Chavo came out and tried to be civil in asking him to leave and Savage just sat there and ignored him. Chavo slowly got more and more irritated with Savage, and when he started getting physical with Savage, Macho Man finally stood up, decked him and then chucked him out the ring. Then the other guy Chavo was supposed to wrestle came down and it happened much the same way again, only much faster. Like a boss. I don't think I've ever seen anything aside from his WM6 match mixed tag match against Dusty that I wasn't a complete and total mark for. I really wouldn't be too surprised to find out that this was the first time a show was held up like this.

This was January of 97. Did Bret or Shawn or someone else do it in the WWF?


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Resuming my viewership of Nitro again. Still in February of 97.

Billy Kidman just showed up to job to Glacier. God what a jobber. He reminds me exactly of Sean Waltman from 4 years earlier.

After having watched Raw last night, while I still say WCW was on autopilot at this point in time I must also stress as I did before that it was at a very high level.

Ultimo Dragon was showcased in the ring. Seriously, WWE today is just copying and pasting every single match they have from the cruiserweight division match from WCW. This match from Ultimo Dragon was cutting edge awesome in 97. In WWE today it is wrestle by numbers.

Hogan came out and told Piper that if he has the guts to show up he will put the WCW WHC on the line.

Something you never see happen anymore on Raw.

Also Ice Train vs Psychosis was a pretty basic match 1997 standards, but it was great seeing a head scissors applied. Certain holds you just never see on the main roster anymore.

Loved the tag division here too. The Outsiders, Hall and Nash, The Steiner Brothers, Harlem Heat, Booker T and Stevey Ray with Sensational Sherri, and the Faces of Fear, Barbarian and Haku. Anyone that thinks New Day is great needs a history lesson.

Currently watching Harlem Heat vs The Steiner Brothers and its fuckin awesome. These guys are huge, tossing each other around, carrying themselves like Badass mother fuckers. Sadly but not unexpectedly, the match ends with the Faces of Fear AND Public Enemy running in and starting a big shmoz, meanwhile in the bad The Outsiders took lead pipes to Lex Luger and then talked some trash. God I loved the tag division.

Mike Enos (the former Blake Beverly of the Beverly Brothers) is out next to face off against tiny Tim, er... Dean Malenko. Huge mismatch in size here but Malenko wrestles smart and keeps using his leverage to take Enos down. Heenan wisely points out that everyone is the same height when they're on their backs, unless you're John Tenta in which case you tower over everybody. Heenan always had the best fat jokes.

During the match, Syxx comes out through the crowd and steals Malenko's Cruiserweight belt and disappears into the crowd once again. After the match the ref informs Malenko his.belt is missing and he is left up in arms as they fade to black for a commercial break.

Not everything is great in WCW though. Kevin Sullivan still runs a stable. It is bad enough he is on TV at all, but he is grouped with Jimmy Hart, and Konnan and Miss Jacqueline. Dungeon of Doom was terrible. I have always had a soft spot for Konnan, but I feel bad seeing him grouped with these idiots. Thankfully it was just a top-of-the-ramp interview with Mean Gene.

Thankfully it was short and followed by Diamond Dallas Page vs the Ultimate Warrior wannabe "Renegade". DDP is still the over the top heel, but he is getting over thanks to Hall and Nash courting him and holding strong in his loyalty to WCW. DDP finishes with a cutter off the top rope, actually one of my favorite RKOs I have seen.

As soon as the match is over Hall and Nash cut off DDP at the top of the ramp with their lead pipes. Sting and Savage appear in the stands and together the 4 surround DDP and he grabs a chair. After a few moments of taunting, Hall and Nash wave to DDP as if to say "We'll be seeing you real soon" and slowly back through Gorilla.

This was a simple squash and it was far more interesting than anything I have seen on Raw in months.

Super Call vs Alex Wright. Meh...

Konnan vs Benoit. Now we're talking. Konnan has a finisher very similar to the Razor's Edge. Only difference is Konnan releases once Benoit is clear and he drops flatback instead of on his shoulders.

Jeff Jarrett vs Steve McMichael. Another snoozer. Debra McMichael costs Mongo the match by holding onto his foot and keeping him from getting back into the ring before the 10 count. Debra's love fest with Double J continues.

Piper comes out with a 6 year old Colt Tombs. He cuts a great promo about wanting to hang it up and just retire and focus on being the best dad he can be.

Hogan comes and Piper holds his boy close calls Hogan Terry and asks him not to start anything with him. Hogan frequently stares down Colt while he talks his trash. Piper acts like he just wants to leave in peace without putting his son in danger. Piper willingly says things like Hogan beat me like a drum and I am a coward. Mean Gene tells Piper he doesn't have to do this, and Piper grabs Colt close again and says he just doesn't want any trouble.

Piper starts to leave like a scolded dog someone comes to help with Colt, and while Hogan and Bischoff are grandstanding in the ring, Piper makes like he is going to leave with his boy, stops, turns around takes off his jacket, fires up, and grabs Hogan and Bischoff from behind by their hair and hits them with a double noggin knocker. He pulls off his belt wraps it around his fist and punches Hogan out and clears the ring. The belt left abandoned, Piper grabs it and holds it up high for the crowd to see then slings it over his shoulder. He accepts the match and Nitro fades to black with the crowd going nuts chanting Rowdy Roddy.

That segment was money. Piper was the most awesome white meat babyface in a segment where he didn't even get touched. The way he backed down from the fight to protect his son and did.everything in his power to keep him safe, and then once Colt was clear from harm he cranked it up to 10 and cleaned house was awesome. The sad thing is that this wasn't the go home show, because you couldn't possibly build a ppv main event better than this. Hogan was a scumbag bully, and Piper was perfect the ending couldn't be done better.

But now there is still another week before the ppv and where can they go from here?

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Oh what the hell I will go for a double shot. Watching the Feb 10 edition of Nitro now.

The night opens when Malenko calling out Syxx. Instead he gets the world television champion Eddie Guerrero. As you can imagine, they put on a chain wrestling clinic. Syxx comes out about 5 minutes in and tries to steal the US title from Eddie. Eddie notices and chases him off but just barely doesn't get back into the ring before the 10 count. The ref raises Malenko's hand, and he jerks his hand away pissed about Syxx. After staring off at Syxx running away into the crowd.

Eddie and Dean slap hands then head into the back as DDP's music hits and the crowd pops big. It's only 10 minutes in, so it doesn't say much to say its the biggest pop of the night and not likely to remain the biggest pop, but it was certainly a remarkable pop considering he is still technically a heel.

DDP has what appears to be the same red cushioned chair from last week slung over his shoulder and once he gets in the ring he sits to cut a promo.

DDP says he is tired of running and having to look over his shoulder, and that if something is going to happen, then lets get it over with now. Instead of Hall and Nash coming out, Sting and Savage defend from the stands with a baseball bat. Savage takes the bat and circles DDP still sitting in the chair and beats the chair a number of times before DDP finally flinches and stands up andnSvage kicks the chair away. Sting then takes the bat and starts pushing DDP around and shoves him into the corner. He then hands DDP the bat and turns his back. Savage mimics Sting but won't take his eyes off DDP. When DDP does not take advantage and attack them Sting leaves. Savage starts to follow then rips the bat from his hands and states DDP down as he exits.

DDP vs Savage has begun. It doesn't get going for a while, but here the seeds are planted. PWI's feud of the year in 1997.

Konnan squash. Nothing remarkable.

Lex Luger comes to the ring with a cast on his hand and is stopped by Bischoff, who tell him he cannot wrestle with a broken bone, and if he tries, he will be fired. Big Show comes out to face Mr. Jobber in Lugers stead and squashes him.

Luger and Big Show were supposed to tag at Superbrawl against the Outsiders and Tenay comes to the ring to interview The Giant about how he will compete against them alone. Big Show says he is a giant and CAN beat them by himself and when he is the tag team champions he will hold one of them for Luger until he is cleared to wrestle again. Huh. I'm the tag team champions, huh? Sounds familiar.

Afterwards they show the NWO entering through the parking lot. Sounds like Hall and Nash will be wrestling and perhaps Bossman vs DDP too. Sounds great!

Steiners vs High Energy. High Energy may have been jobbers but they were jacked up. Certainly had the looks of guys that could be tag champions in a few years time. Steiners are tossing them around like garbage. As the match progresses, Harlem Heat, Public Enemy, and Faces of Fear all come out to watch from the ramp area as commentary discusses the tag team fatal fourway.

It's kinda funny how Rick Steiner appeared to have so much more personality back then than Scotty. I am really looking forward to seeing the rise of Big Poppa Pump. I believe that is about a full year off yet though.

I always liked how the nWo would run off the commentary team and take over on commentary. It just added to the chaos they always wrought. This episode was on an episode of WWE's top 10. Bischoff brings out Randy Peewee Anderson with his family in tow and as his daughter begs for his dad's job back Bischoff tells the girl to tell her dad that he is still fired.

Hall and Nash say they want to face off against the best wrestlers Stamford Connecticut has to offer and out comes two jobbers for them to kick around in comedic fashion. Afterwards they cut a promo on Giant and Luger, with Syxx acting as interviewer.

As hour 2 begins we are treated to Mysterio vs Regal. I have never looked it up, but I really have no idea who is bigger, Mysterio or Kalisto. As Rey got older he gained a lot of weight. In 97 he was lean and mean but he looked tiny as can be.

Regal and Mysterio battle to a 10 minute time limit draw just as Mysterio nearly had him beat. I miss time limit draws. They were a great way to build a competitive feud between two people with no history. After seeing this match I would really like to see a rematch atSuperbrawl with no time limit and a real decision.

Next match is Kevin Sullivan vs some jobber. Ms. Jacqueline does more damage to the jobber than Sullivan. She even body slammed him in high heels.

After the match Mike Tenay interviews them at the top of the ramp. Sullivan mentions receiving a call from "Paul E." Mostly the promo revolves around Nancy Benoit cheating on Sullivan and he got pretty hot. Most likely turned into a shoot by the end. He about bit off Jimmy Harts head when he started to talk.

Apparently last week's main event was so good they had to show it twice. This is a good example of the crap WCW used to do.

Hugh Morris vs Alex Wright. Meh.

Mongo and Benoit vs chavito and Double J
The match wasn't bad. Debra spent most of her time fawning over Double J. AA cuts a promo, then hands it over to naitch. Naitch is in typical crazy form. Benoit cuts a promo that feels equally real if less than angry compared to Sullivan.

Before there was Ziggler, Lana and Rusev there was McMichael, Debra, and Double J. God damn I hate this feud. Debra is even worse than Summer Rae.

Nitro goes to commercial and comes back with Piper on his way to the ring. I don't think Piper was ever more over as a face. Piper was on fire himself, and the crowd was nuts for him. Piper definitely knew he was having his last run and made the very most of it. He talked himself into tears. He talks about Hogan and Bischoff being in San Francisco early to get married.

The back and forth between Hogan and Piper, while Piper is in the ring and Hogan was in "Hollywood" is pretty good. Considering how great their previous segment was the week before this had no hope of topping that, but it was still pretty damned good.

Honestly, I don't think I have ever seen Piper better. He may have earned the right to go down in history as the greatest heel of all time, but this face run here in late 96 and early 97 in WCW shows Piper was one absolutely incredible face too.

I think I might actually watch Superbrawl just to see what they do.

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February 24 1997. The night after Superbrawl.

Savage has joined the nWo. Malenko lost the cruiserweight title to Syxx. Big Show beat both Hall and Nash by himself to become the tag team champions. Yes, he is the tag team champions. Piper was screwed by Savage out of the WCW WHC.

Not overly interested so far in this show. Strong wrestling from a tag team match with Eddie and Jericho vs the Faces of fear. But the storylines... Meh this far. Juvy vs Mysterio was Badass and so was Malenko vs Ultimo Dragon.

Pat Tanaka came out to Goldberg's theme again. Obviously it isn't his theme yet, but it is surprising how closely before Goldberg's debut his theme was being used by someone else.

DDP vs jobber. DDP hits the RKO out of a fireman's carry and Hall and Nash start sauntering to the ring. They distract DDP and Savage sneaks in and hit DDP from behind, and then spraypaints him.

Afterwards, Hall cuts a promo while Hogan DiBiase Liz and Bischoff come ringside too. This promo appears to be the proto-survey promo he would become known for, talking about how all the fans were here to see the nWo.

DDP vs Savage is actually building faster than I thought. DDP was stretchered out. I forget when he gets injured, but I know that is coming soon if this wasn't actually it right here.

Big Show and Lex Luger are set to defend the titles against Harlem Heat. Bischoff runs outs before the bell and strips the belts from Lex Luger and Big Show. Sting comes out with a bat and Faces down Hogan and Hogan hugs him. Sting doesn't reciprocate, but turns to face Luger Show and Harlem Heat as the nWo pats him on the back as the show fades to black.

Edited by Rico Len - 15/October/2015 at 23:39
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